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Mastin1
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Moho and After Effects

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Hi!

To create animation on Moho I usually set a project settings 1920x1080 (24fps). Then I exported different layers of my animation in PNG sequence and I import them on after effects in a composition 1920x1080 23,976fps.

The problem is that the animation on after effects (and then on premiere) is faster than in Moho. Since my animation include a lyp sinc the only thing I can do for fixing this problem is to reduce the speed of the animation in after effects & premiere around 80%.

It works but I lose a bit of "fluidity" on the animation.

How I can set the projects on Moho in the way that exporting PNG sequence on AE, it will match with the timeline of moho?
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Why do you use 23,927 fps? Use 24 fps in both projects and you should have no problems.

23,927 fps is not one of any official video broadcast frame rates. It is a legal frame rate on Blue Ray discs, however, nobody would produce content in that frame rate. You produce in either 24, 25 or 30 fps, and anything else will be converted during DVD mastering, if required.
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I tried to set 24 fps in all softwares but the lip sync still mismatches in AE and Premiere...

It seems that it deletes frames where the character is unmoving.
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slowtiger wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 8:51 am Why do you use 23,927 fps? Use 24 fps in both projects and you should have no problems.

23,927 fps is not one of any official video broadcast frame rates. It is a legal frame rate on Blue Ray discs, however, nobody would produce content in that frame rate. You produce in either 24, 25 or 30 fps, and anything else will be converted during DVD mastering, if required.
I tried to set 24 fps in all softwares but the lip sync still mismatches in AE and Premiere...

It seems that it deletes frames where the character is unmoving - making the animation faster than when I see it on Moho
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Re: Moho and After Effects

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SOLVED

I found the problem.. I will share it in the case someone could have the same issue.

Actually the import PNG sequence on AE is set on 30fps.
Need to go to Prefereces - Import - change the frame rate.

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Is this a normal way of exporting? Why would you export PNG and edit in after effects (as opposed to editing an video)

sorry for noob question :D
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I prefer video files because then I'll have only 1 file per scene. Others here in the forum prefer PNG sequences because they can deal easier with mistakes in the render. I keep that in mind as a second option, however, I rarely had problems while rendering.

Any good video editor shouold be able to import a PNG sequence the same way as a video file. People using AfterFX mostly use it because they need some additional effects. AfterFX is not suited to be used as a simple video editor.
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I always set everything to 24 fps for projects, footage and audio. At work, we only use 23.927 fps for final movie output for editorial.

For animations and compositing, it's a lot easier to stay with 24 fps. More specifically, though we only use image sequences in animation and compositing. The movie file is only for editorial use.
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