Improved Rendering - coming soon

jahnocli · Post by **jahnocli** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:22 pm

My vote goes for the default to be "off".

J

ulrik · Post by **ulrik** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:25 pm

I think "off" would be default setting.

mr. blaaa · Post by **mr. blaaa** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:24 pm

LOSTMARBLE this really is a damn good piece of work!
I appreciate this.
The rendering quality always was a "hot spot" but now it seems you *perfectly* improved this!

Much respect for this!

(very special moment in my "moho life")

Rai López · Post by **Rai López** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:08 pm

Uf... After I've tried uncheck it I must to take out this again -->

...Definitely I LOVE "Off" and I think (well, maybe I must try it more, but well...) never, or very few times at least, will miss "On"

...Anyway the Preferences Option is the best way to content all of us and with it, the final decision, if default or not, doesn't worry too much

(I'm TOO MUCH happy to something worry to me now...

)

jordanek · Post by **jordanek** » Wed Nov 16, 2005 11:25 pm

I would prefer to have gap filling OFF by default. I'm much more likely to have small shapes that need crisp rendering than I am to have two shapes placed edge to edge.

Toontoonz · Post by **Toontoonz** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 12:47 pm

I will be posting some before and after renders on Friday or this weekend when I have more time.

Anybody else have any before and afters to show????

Squeakydave · Post by **Squeakydave** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:21 pm

Well. I tried the file Lostmoho sent me and YES it does render as well as Flash.
I am very happy but I would vote to have gap filling off as default as I don't think I have ever designed anything that has two shapes right up next to each other and as with Jordanek I am really rather likely to have lots of small shapes. (Especially with camera moves)

mr. blaaa · Post by **mr. blaaa** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:27 pm

Concerning this: my votes for "gap filling" to be off by default.
Forgot to mention this in my last post.

Cheers

Toontoonz · Post by **Toontoonz** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:29 pm

First test of Adobe Illustrator file into Moho.
Imported image, then made duplicates and resized within frame, then rendered at 640 x 480 pixels. (cropped away excess white space for image here):

click on image for larger view.

Note eyes - As image gets smaller, black pupil gets bigger or white space in eye ball gets smaller.
Also green thing on top of head seems to fill in as it gets smaller.

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These changes have nothing to do with improving the importing of files from Illustrator to Moho, correct?

Toontoonz · Post by **Toontoonz** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:36 pm

Here is another view with renders from
640 x 480
320 x 240
160 x 120
all in one shot:

click to see larger view.

Rai López · Post by **Rai López** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:42 pm

ToonToonz! The KING of the tests!!! HI!

Only a question... Are pupils and green thing shapes? In this case, if checked, you'd must cosider uncheck Gap Filling in the Vector tab options and you'll see...

Toontoonz · Post by **Toontoonz** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:03 pm

Ramon - glad you are checking these things out.

Here is a comparison between No Gap filling and Gap filling at 640 x 480 and 320 x 240.

640 x 480

click to see larger view

320 x 240

click to see larger view

See any difference between the gap filling and no gap filling?

Rai López · Post by **Rai López** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:20 pm

...I've been checking it too and I've could see a GREAT improvement in fill renders unchecking Gap Filling, more detailed forms and even the fill can be so thin that it can DISAPPEAR!

(never before was possible) About your image... is difficult to say to me cause the "pastel" (or low contrast) colors and the write background (a secret: I'm a little color blind person

), but I can see differences specially in the most small figure, in the ribbon, green head thing and eyes...

BYE!

mr. blaaa · Post by **mr. blaaa** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:32 pm

Well, thanks toontoonz for your test images.

I personally prefer the pictures without gap filling, they somehow look a bit more "natural".
I don't know how to express this correctly but i think it is a better linework without gap filling.

And i can't wait for the next moho update

Rai López · Post by **Rai López** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:40 pm

mr. blaaa wrote:And i can't wait for the next moho update

...YES! Specially I'm very intrigated about how brushes will be reder, the low quality brush render issue is one of the reasons for I never can use it although I want do it and, if finally it works so fine like normal line works in this RT version I'll be, ahhh... SO happy...