AS9 point/timeline tips - things you need to know!

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AS9 point/timeline tips - things you need to know!

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Hey,
Thought I'd share some basic new behaviours in AS9 now that it's available to purchase (yay!) - some stuff in here might help avoid frustration :)
It's not flashy or exciting but goes over some stuff you really need to know to get the most out of AS9.

Enjoy!

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Hmm, not sure about that selected key frame being modified by point animation. Seems like that could cause a lot of problems with people forgetting to deselect keys and ending up with their animation screwed.... Maybe if it was toggleable in the dope sheet. It's a very nice feature, but it should be toggleable. You can use the 'edit only on 0' toggle, but a lot of people leave that on.

If you think about it, it could slow you down considerably. You now have to deselect keys before moving points to ensure that movement isn't carried over, and then select them again once you've finished, when you might have those keys selected for a reason other than that AS thinks. Seems like a dodgy design.
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Also, do the move/rotate/scale points etc tools work like the Fazek tools? Because I'd love to have that new point interpolation function and the fazek functionality in the one tool.

I'd also like to be able to select multiple keys and set holds for them all, so you can't do that seems a bit of an oversight. Rule no 34 of UI design is make all functions work with multi selection.
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Yeah, ive not done a great deal in practice, but it only really caught me once. It's quite unusual to have multiple frames selected unless you do it explicitly so it's probably not that big an issue in practice. It's probably something that could've hanged if it turns out to be a problem.

I'm not sure I was prepared enough to make this video, when moving points it doesnt have much to do with having edit on 0 deselected, I just wanted to make people aware of certain behaviours...
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Cross post...
Actually no, fazes tools don't work but mike Kelley modified a couple of s tools to my taste... They act pretty much identically to fazeks, except they have scale and rotate on mod keys. They're available on animators forum, but are not quite complete. He also has a point add tool that has curve and thickness on mod keys. It's really great, even coming from me the die hard fazeks tools fan :P
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I updated them to work with 8, including the new hiding functionality, I'll have to give them a go with 9...
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Is it my imagination or at 2:00 there are zero points selected but the selected point channel is still visible?
When did that change? :shock:
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Genete wrote:Is it my imagination or at 2:00 there are zero points selected but the selected point channel is still visible?
When did that change? :shock:
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In AS8 they still show until you click inside the timeline if you click in the workspace to deselect the points. If you use enter/return to deselect the points they will not show in the timeline.
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dodgy - it just occured to me that you could just use the unmodified fazeks tools if you dont want to risk points moving in other places since they don't support that functionality... although to make them work, you need to find and replace any instance of:

mouseEvent.view:Refresh()

to

mouseEvent.view:RefreshView()

due to updates in the scripting interface.
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Might be worth sticking with them (for me) since I'm a bit dubious of that functionality then :)
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best of both worlds ;)
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Coloured action keys

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Hey...
Great vid thanks Funks!
I just tried something out with a suspicion of a cool new timeline trick thought I should post here.

Coloured keyframes ...yes, cool... but check this out.

Create an action then colour label those keyframes.

When you use the action in the Mainline, the keys are coloured as in the action.

Meaning you can identify the action automatically and instantly with 'auto colour labelling'.

Great for blinks , head turn keys, all those actions that you do often and may need to hunt down and edit later.

Cool huh?
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Cool idea chunky! It would clarify things if you have several actions that are the same length...
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