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Stereoscopic test

Post by ponysmasher » Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:44 am

I'm in early preproduction of a feature film and I'm considering making it in stereoscopic 3D.
I don't know of any 2D films in 3D, has it been done before? I've seen credit sequences in 3D animated films that were stereoscopic 2D, but not any full features.
Anyone know of any examples?

Anyway here's an early test uploaded using YouTube's 3D function: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Bi3a7_1Qug
[EDIT: Oh yeah, sorry the clip is in swedish without subtitles.]

Maybe not the best scene in terms of depth, but it's a test:
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As you can see in the picture I'm using a custom tool to help with calculating and setting the camera separation. Have some more stuff to add and test before I upload it though.
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Post by funksmaname » Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:47 am

very cool - although i don't have any glasses around :(
but looks pretty cool even without glasses, so that's a plus :)

I like your characters!
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Post by gregino » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:06 am

Amazing, I didn't tought it was possible to get this quality, bravo!

@funksmaname : you might be interested by this link ;)
http://www.labnol.org/home/make-3d-glasses/13776/
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Post by funksmaname » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:32 am

HA! thanks for the tip :) i'll make a pair tomorrow :P
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Post by Danimal » Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:43 pm

Now I'm going to have to try that bit for making my own glasses. I wonder if I have a blue marker laying around anywhere though...

The animation looked very nice even without the 3D effect.
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Post by ponysmasher » Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:51 pm

Or, if you don't mind some eye gymnastics, you could try cross eyed viewing.
http://www.youtube.com/select_3d_mode

But you'll need some distance (or a small viewing size) so the effect won't be very strong.
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Post by Víctor Paredes » Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:07 pm

It looks very nice (and 3d) with the eyes crossed.
The only thing I didn't like is the ball passing in front of the characters. This looks too forced, too Hey, I'm 3d!
Maybe if the balls were always swaying a little bit from front to back it would feel better.
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Post by Danimal » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:38 pm

selgin wrote:This looks too forced, too Hey, I'm 3d!
Isn't that how all 3D is? There's really no need for it outside of a gimmick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m2gl51J6lo
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Post by Blighty » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:36 pm

FYI, here's one of my favourite animated movies from the 80's that was actually created in anaglyph 3D, Starchaser: The Legend of Orin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfzn8i4YAH0
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Post by aleXean » Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:17 pm

This is being made in Flash, anaglyph....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7R9qyKkOuY
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Post by ponysmasher » Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:15 am

selgin wrote:It looks very nice (and 3d) with the eyes crossed.
The only thing I didn't like is the ball passing in front of the characters. This looks too forced, too Hey, I'm 3d!
Maybe if the balls were always swaying a little bit from front to back it would feel better.
Thanks for the feedback. It's still just early testing but having them more floating in and out of screen space will probably be more pleasant.
Danimal wrote: Isn't that how all 3D is? There's really no need for it outside of a gimmick.
A lot of people I know have this opinion but I've always been a 3D freak myself so I definately see an artistic use for it. I just hope it's not just a fad this time. If only we could get rid of the glasses in a good way.
Blighty wrote:FYI, here's one of my favourite animated movies from the 80's that was actually created in anaglyph 3D, Starchaser: The Legend of Orin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfzn8i4YAH0
Thanks for this tip! I found a clip from the film in true 3D here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLDqcp4AnB0
When people upload clips in "true 3D" I can download them and watch them with Nvidia 3D vision. Too bad that the quality isn't better.
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Post by Vagabond » Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:25 pm

ponysmasher,
From what I understand there are different types of 3D.
1) Anaglyph: red and cyan channels that AS can create and
2) stereoscopic: two separate images shot from slightly different angles and put side by side and
3) hollywood movies: two images shot from different angles projected on the screen in the same space.

Your script seems to be the second type, stereoscopic. But can your script do the 3rd type and just place the images on top of each other? When I take my glasses off at the theatres that's what the screen looks like. It's fuzzy cause both images are shown at once. I asked about this before on the forum but I think I was misunderstood. Umm, do you know what I mean?
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Post by ponysmasher » Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:48 pm

Vagabond wrote:ponysmasher,
From what I understand there are different types of 3D.
1) Anaglyph: red and cyan channels that AS can create and
2) stereoscopic: two separate images shot from slightly different angles and put side by side and
3) hollywood movies: two images shot from different angles projected on the screen in the same space.
Well, all three methods you mention are shot the same (two cameras slightly separated), the difference is in how you view it.

The way movies are shown in theaters (most of the time) is two different images are projected on the same surface (the screen) but with different polarizations (that the glasses filter out appropriately).

As long as you have two movie files, one for each eye, you can convert them to any viewing format you want. You can do this for example using Stereo Movie Maker.

The way I view them on my PC is with Nvidia 3D vision. The way it works is it alternates between the left and right image really fast (120hz) and you wear glasses that black out the frame that the eye in question should not see. Sounds weird but it works really well.
This is how most 3D tv's work right now.
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Post by Vagabond » Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:30 am

:shock: that's exactly what I mean :shock:

I HAVE A NEW TOY! I HAVE A NEW TOY!!

Time to make some coffee and re-render all my backgrounds.

thank you
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Post by chucky » Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:16 am

That was Smashing! PS, 3d works really well too.
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