Clip Studio, dropping Smith Micro?

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Clip Studio, dropping Smith Micro?

Postby chucky » Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:43 am

http://blog.smithmicro.com/clip-studio-paints-next-chapter?utm_content=62195817&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
Well this was a carefully worded post.
Looks like the makers of the awesome digital art app Clip Studio ( Celsys) have decided to take over customer service and support for English speaking customers.
Clip Studio is MASSIVE in Japan , but westerners seem to only follow the' one god' of Adobe photoshop, which is not actually all its cracked up to be (caveat: for digital drawing and painting that is, not photo retouching, which it is the master).

If I were to pull this apart and extrapolate some very lose assumptions , I might think something like this....
Celsys may have been unhappy with the marketing of Clip Studio in the west , it does seem to get sold off as bargain basement fair, when it is fact of the highest quality , a powerhouse application.

Moho seems to be in some sort of caretaker mode, maybe SM may be looking to sell?
Smith Micro seem to be pulling back from all their graphics products at the moment, perhaps Smith Micro's is moving it's whole unwieldy carcass to pasture.
After All this forum is not managed by them, SM could step away from its graphics assets as though they were hot potatoes.
Maybe Graphics isn't their bag and they want to go back to their back-end enterprise guff ?
In so many ways , losing CSP is sad news, but, with the attitude of the SM top execs to marketing and developing their graphics products, it might be sad, but not bad.
Of course all of this is pure speculation and I have no idea at all of any fact in this regard ( I could well be seeing faces in the clouds) , but I wonder if Moho might find a new lease of life with a shiny new owner, who actually has a real passion for its products and customers.

Please SM don't let Moho rot on the vine, if you don't want it.... sell it to someone who does.
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Re: Clip Studio, dropping Smith Micro?

Postby jahnocli » Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:26 am

Yeah, Smith Micro made it look like they were nobly standing aside for the well-being of their customers, whereas the reality is closer to them being given the heave-ho by CelSys for underperforming. I agree -- if Smith Micro don't want Moho, PLEASE sell it to someone who does.
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Re: Clip Studio, dropping Smith Micro?

Postby hayasidist » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:46 pm

jahnocli wrote:... if Smith Micro don't want Moho, PLEASE sell it to someone who does.
Indeed, but to someone who has empathy with the current business model / user base and will support it properly (nightmare scenario if you're not already a CC subscriber: Adobe buys it and "subsumes it" into Illustrator / Animate and/or only sells it as an app in a CC bundle at going on $600 p.a. ... not sure which of those is worse actually)
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Re: Clip Studio, dropping Smith Micro?

Postby chucky » Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:45 pm

Yup, I refuse to buy subscriptions, even toon boom. The minute take liberties, I'm out.
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Re: Clip Studio, dropping Smith Micro?

Postby Hassan » Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:48 pm

Hopefully, we will see english version of Clip Studio Action soon.
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Re: Clip Studio, dropping Smith Micro?

Postby InfoCentral » Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:58 pm

Yeah, this isn't the first time there's been a falling out between the two. I remember back when there was a Manga studio and Clip Studio.CelSys told SmithMicro that they were ending the relationship and they had to cease selling digital copies immediately and could only sell physical copies of Manga studio.

Then there was the whole chaos on the upgrade path where we were told there wasn't going to be a upgrade path to Clip Studio from Manga studio. We would have to buy a new license for Clip Studio. Eventually everything got worked out in all the Manga Studio owners got upgraded to Clip Studio.

Unfortunately, it appears that this relationship didn't end amicably as SmithMicro is ending all support and resources in the next few days. I wonder what's going to happen to the video tutorials and the webinars? Also is Motion Artist going to continue or is that ending too?

I guess CelSys wasn't in a position to take over the English market. Now all that is changed. I know I get all my upgrades and resources from their website now. I'm sure cutting out the middleman will result in more profitability.
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Re: Clip Studio, dropping Smith Micro?

Postby herbert123 » Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:52 am

ClipStudio is friggin' amazing. Just for fun I installed my CS EX on my aging Asus epe121 Slate, and did not expect much - after all, the hardware is terribly slow, and Krita runs like a snail in mud. It is unworkable. Photoshop: likewise.

ClipStudio with a 600ppi A4 document runs SMOOTH. I couldn't believe it. Drawing and painting is smooth (excepting very large brushes). A new life for my old slate! :D
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Re: Clip Studio, dropping Smith Micro?

Postby Greenlaw » Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:10 am

I've been using CSP/Manga Studio ever since the first Brudders comic (started with version 2 or 3, I think) and it's always been a lot of fun to draw with. I can't imagine drawing comics in anything else, and I've yet to use this program to its full potential.

Just read the blog entry. I'm not surprised to see CSP leaving SM, it was just a matter of time. My last few updates came from CelSys' website, not SM's.

Anyway, I'm happy to hear my SM license will continue to be supported by CelSys. That was a big concern I had when SM first lost the digital distribution rights.

InfoCentral wrote:Also is Motion Artist going to continue or is that ending too?

Motion Artist is actually an off-shoot of Moho so I imagine it will continue to be supported by SM for the foreseeable future.
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