Moho 12.4 Update

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Re: Moho 12.4 Update

Postby Greenlaw » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:35 pm

Oh, ok. I never use the Switch Selection window (reasons explained in an older thread*) but I'm trying it now and it seems to be working without crashing.

*(I"ll have to revisit this tool and see if the problems I had with it in the past are still present.)

FYI, I prefer to control my Switch Layers with an SBD. This way the keyframes stay with the Bones layer along with all the other animation. If you set frame 1 inside the Switch's Action to be Linear, and frame zero to Step, the SBD switches non-linearly in the Mainline, and this 'single layer' setup is a lot easier to align the rest of the character animation with the lipsync. (Well, for me, anyway. Of course, if you prefer to keyframe the Switches directly, enabling Timeline Visibility for each Switch lets you have all keyframes present along with the Bones keyframes. But this does take up more space in the Timeline, and the large Switch Select window itself adds to desktop clutter.) Naturally, you should have Copy Previous Key enabled so you don't have to keep switching Interpolation modes.

BTW, one thing I've been doing lately is adding non-rendering Note labels for all viseme mouth shapes...this helps me run through the lipsyncing process very quickly. It's kinda like having the visible text label from Switch Select, but right inside the Workspace. (I typically label only the viseme drawings in the switch; other 'expressive' shapes are usually obvious.) This is a little more effort to set up but I and the other artists I work with prefer it.

Another lipsynching trick I like is to Ctrl-Alt-Right Click over the character's mouth region (or any Switch region in the Workspace). This causes a list of switches to appear near where you clicked, which can be a fast way to select mouth shapes without moving away from the rig. However, if you have large 'invisible' shapes in front of the switch, it can block you from the clicking the drawing's 'hot spot'. (This is the why we stopped using this method, but Ctrl-Alt-Right Click is still useful in simpler character setups. I still use it for quick 'one-offs' where I don't need to build a full rig.)
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Re: Moho 12.4 Update

Postby Telemacus » Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:33 am

Wow, thanks DR for sharing your experience with Switch layers!
Really neat tricks (the note labels + Cntrl+Alt+right).
I'd recently seen Chad's tutorial on Lip Syncing with Switch Selector: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54kQVVuey1M&t=25s, but obviously there are other alternatives.
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Re: Moho 12.4 Update

Postby Greenlaw » Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:40 pm

Yes, I can think of a few other methods I didn't even go into. All of the ones mentioned so far are probably the most commonly used though. :)

Not all methods work equally well for every character though. The best method is whatever is easiest and produces the right look for a given project.
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Re: Moho 12.4 Update

Postby troypicou » Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:59 pm

Anyone having issues with onion skin not working with the update?
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Re: Moho 12.4 Update

Postby synthsin75 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:49 pm

troypicou wrote:Anyone having issues with onion skin not working with the update?


Works here. Do you have the "draw behind" option disabled?
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Re: Moho 12.4 Update

Postby troypicou » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:32 pm

synthsin75 wrote:
troypicou wrote:Anyone having issues with onion skin not working with the update?


Works here. Do you have the "draw behind" option disabled?


Thanks, I unchecked it and now it works. :D
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Re: Moho 12.4 Update

Postby Greenlaw » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:34 pm

Works here. What problem are you seeing with it?

Try what Wes said. if the options are greyed out, make sure you enable it first by clicking the circle.

Also, when working with vectors, I often prefer to use Outlines Only. I find it easier to distinguish the past/future shapes this way. (Naturally, this is meaningless in a bitmap rig.)

Edit: just saw your post. Glad you got it figured out. :)
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Re: Moho 12.4 Update

Postby troypicou » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:36 pm

Thanks for the reply!
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Re: Moho 12.4 Update

Postby tut » Sat Dec 23, 2017 9:31 pm

Any word on getting this update to work on Mac OSX 10.9.5? Very anxious to get some of these fixes in place. Thanks for any information.
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