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moho12.5 crashes when i create or open new projects

Postby wr3yth » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:20 am

hi i'm using moho 12.5 and it crashes when i open or create a project in about 50% times
specially when i want to open two projects at one time
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Re: moho12.5 crashes when i create or open new projects

Postby synthsin75 » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:29 am

Sounds like your system is unstable.
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Re: moho12.5 crashes when i create or open new projects

Postby wr3yth » Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:49 pm

what should i do?
i have no problem with other programs or games
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Re: moho12.5 crashes when i create or open new projects

Postby wr3yth » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:05 pm

i fixed the crashes
i'm using a laptop with switchable graphic cards, hp probook 4530s
i was using my weak graphic card
so there is a new issue that i have with my strong graphic card (amd 6740 ithink)
there some black lines around display screens borders
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Re: moho12.5 crashes when i create or open new projects

Postby synthsin75 » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:17 pm

Try disabling GPU acceleration in the preferences.
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Re: moho12.5 crashes when i create or open new projects

Postby wr3yth » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:38 pm

thanks it worked!
isn't there any way to fix this with gpu enabled?
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Re: moho12.5 crashes when i create or open new projects

Postby synthsin75 » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:57 pm

You might try updating your graphics card driver, but some cards just aren't up to the task.

I generally leave GPU acceleration disabled anyway, even with a powerful graphics card that can handle it.
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Re: moho12.5 crashes when i create or open new projects

Postby Greenlaw » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:44 pm

I agree with the above statement. GPU acceleration can mess up how masks appear in the Workspace, so I usually leave it off too. For me, the benefits of GPU acceleration in the current Moho (12.5) are minimal and it's more important to have more accurate display previews.

There have been a few situations where I had to temporarily enable GPU accelerations but that's been rare.
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Re: moho12.5 crashes when i create or open new projects

Postby synthsin75 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:24 pm

I *think* GPU acceleration is only really meant to help freehand drawing.
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Re: moho12.5 crashes when i create or open new projects

Postby Greenlaw » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:30 am

My understanding is that GPU Acceleration uses the graphics card to convert vector art to bitmaps, which the card can technically playback faster in the Workspace. Or maybe it was for any bitmaps in general? Naturally, the number and size of the graphics is limited by how much vram the card has, so if your card isn't up to the task, performance might actually be slower. But I might be wrong about that...if any of the devs are following this, maybe they can clarify?

IMO, a decent modern computer's CPU should be fast enough to animate complicated Moho rigs with lots of vectors or bitmaps.

Some users may think enabling GPU Acceleration speeds up final rendering, however, GPU acceleration has absolutely no effect here, for speed or quality. Final rendering is all handled by the CPU.

A while back, I think the devs mentioned in another thread they were looking into ways to improve Moho's GPU performance. Hopefully, this feature will be better in a future version of Moho. For now, you probably should just leave GPU Acceleration off unless you actually see an appreciable performance improvement.
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