Toontoonz wrote:Vern: You say about Photoshop: "I also export these vectors to Moho on occassion as AI format."
Which version of Photoshop are you using? Mine can´t do that. The simple vectors it exports have no color, are misshaped and well...worthless. It would be better just to draw them in Moho.
I don't have this problem. Exported paths from PS open fine in Moho for me. I don't know what you are experiencing but it is different from my experience. I use PS v7 on Mac.
Exported paths from photoshop are very basic. I beleive they are in an early format of the AI file structure... possibly v3? I don't think AI versions are a factor with the path export.
Yes... no fill colors on the exported PS paths... I don't need them in that situation anyway... I just want the path to use in Moho... so I don't have to reinvent the wheel.
Let me explain...
See.. I will sometimes "draw" with paths or vector layers in photoshop, I will create a very complex vector path or shape and need it for another use. It is "stuck" in photoshop. Exporting it allows me to use it elsewhere... Flash, Moho, Illustrator, Quark, whatever.
I also will clean up these paths in Flash, Moho, Illustrator, Quark, whatever.
Sometimes I just use them as a very precise "tracing layer" in Moho.
I don't do this very often. Once in a blue moon... like I said...
on occassion.
And you say:
"I can create logos and art work... web layouts... whatever using vector shapes and text layers in Photoshop and layer effects... "
This is misleading.
You give the impression that one can draw a complicated character in Photoshop using vector layers, export it to Moho as a vector and use it as a vector in Moho and this is not true.
And Type (text layer) is vector like - as in all software, but only within Photoshop. One cannot export or save the text layer from Photoshop as a vector or export it as a .ai file to Moho.
Uh... er... well... see...
If you don't push the limits of what a program can do... then you wouldn't be able to do all those things.
How I use shape layers in PS...
PS shape layers are not limited to simple shapes! You can draw anything you want on those layers... within reason of course. Using multiple shape layers you can create very complex drawings. Shape layers can be "compound shapes". You can also set how some shapes effect others within one layer (those "boxy" icon thingies at the top).
I create a layer set in PS and group many vector layers in it. This is great for logos so I can resize them up and down while designing a web site or print material. Or if I have some kind of other shape that I have not decided on the size yet. Doing this eliminates the quality degradation.
To be fair I don't use AI or PS as much for vector shapes in Moho. I usually draw directly in Moho. I was merely using these PS techniques to show how each program is different... and not all the tools are the same or work the way we think they should. Everyone has a different way of using the tools.
I wish that PS had the same vector ability that AI has... it would eliminate having to open another program.
I am merely trying to point out that the "standards" of tools aren't really "standards". You make them do what you want. Every company has their own standards.
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PS Path vector export
You can export any vector layer including text out of PS. There are two completely different methods I use. One involves copying the vector shape layer to a path and exporting (get outlines text layer copy to path)...
...the other way involves just saving the file as a Photoshop PDF and opening in Illustrator to extract the paths. You can embed non distorted text layer fonts or covert on the fly to outlines. Photoshop will keep vector shapes as vector in a PDF.
(Earlier you stated that in Photoshop one can´t use the Paintbucket tool on a vector layer shape - correct, but one does not need to. To change the color one simply selects the shape layer, double click on on the color thumbnail in the layer menu and pick a new color. Color changed.)
Another point... how do you change the color of a shape in Moho? You click on it with the select tool and pick a new color... uh... yeah... that simple. just trying to point out that each program has its own way of things. They all behave differently.
If I get some free time I may try out the paint bucket tool on my PC. Like I said... I have absolutely no dire need for it at the moment.
p.s. Compared to how I use most of my tools... this whole thing about Moho's filling and shape creation... is... well it is a very small thing.
-Vern